(20:00:34) davis.2145: <3>
(20:00:53) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: er? what'd I say? I don't remember. <<;;;
(20:01:05) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: but I'm glad my words inspire hope and make you happy, nonetheless.
(20:02:09) davis.2145: Doing some commercial job that pays well enough but isn't necessarily the creative thing you really passionately want to employ your art for, so you do that kind of thing on the side. You'd mentioned maybe working in design commercially and then maybe doing like Joe Mad (my comic art idol) and doing line art/colors for comic books as a lesser paying but more personally satisfying side career
(20:02:35) davis.2145: I'm glad you're marvelous enough to say things that have impact like that, it's just another reason I adore and ultimately respect you so much.
(20:03:38) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: ah, jesse. your words mean so much to me. truly.
(20:03:43) davis.2145: I realize that's purely a visual art goal and I left out any writing aspirations you may also be tying to that, but at the dinner table you'd not mentioned writing so I was just trying to be verbatim.
(20:04:20) davis.2145: I'm glad, really. You never fail to warm my heart and put force my features to curve into a smile.
(20:05:25) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: the thing with the bit of compromise in doing commercial, "mundane" work is that it is significant in that it brings home money. don't think of it as selling out because it's that money, in turn, that enables one to provide for a family
(20:05:55) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: which, as much as I hate to say it, holds far more value than achiving one's own dreams. the dreams of one's children are far more important at that point, I feel.
(20:06:46) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: that's where I think Casey is flawed in his opinion of college education and such. Sure, it's a bit like selling out but it's sort of necessary in modern society.
(20:06:55) davis.2145: Sure, but I think even if you don't necessarily have children yet, it's perhaps prudent to nurture your real passion even if it never matures and blooms into a career greater than publishing work for satisfaction.
(20:07:20) davis.2145: Yes, I tend to agree. He has a very well developed argument, but I just can't say it holds water.
(20:08:21) davis.2145: Collegiate affairs are generally a business, but many people like myself, will undoubtedly treasure and utilize the knowledge they acquired during that time, and it's fast become a requisite to even hope to be a functional in metropolitan society.
(20:08:21) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: and don't get me wrong, I'm not implying one gives up their long-term artistic achievement goals (that is, writing AND art or music or whatever it may be) but there needs to be a balance there.
(20:08:44) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: if it comes down to it I'd much rather satisfy my child's dreams at the sacrifice of my own.
(20:08:55) davis.2145: Tjat
(20:10:07) davis.2145: er That, is noble, and I'm not decrying it, but I think it's not absolutely necessary really. It may be, given certain circumstances but I think someone like you, or I, are in better positions than either of our parents were to accomplish the three prong goal of earning a suitable living, nurturing our own goal, and giving wings as much as possible to that of our children.
(20:10:59) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: I know. I'm just saying if things were to ever get at their worst, that's what I feel holds real value.
(20:11:28) davis.2145: I tend to keep my outlook slightly loftier than the worst, though considerably lower than the best -_^
(20:12:00) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: like, I know if I were to get pregnant or something and was unable to have an abortion I'd change a lot of my current direction in life for the happiness of the child.
(20:12:16) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: or at least, I hope I'd do so.
(20:12:52) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: which isn't to say my current lifestyle is flawed or anything, but it certainly would make things less than ideal for my child. I'd get my ass in gear and stop being lazy, pretty much. : P
(20:13:17) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: but as far as I know I'm childless yet so I don't have to worry about that and can be as lazy as I want. :]
(20:13:28) davis.2145: I wouldn't blame you, that's perfectly in tune with the whole theme of what we were talking about, I just meant to say that I admire your being able to split the goals and keep them both on the scale.
(20:13:40) davis.2145: Haha, yes, right now I think you're pretty free to carry right on.
(20:14:09) Davie.panda@gmail.com/1D1D2FFF: rawr. I adore you. :] I'm glad we understand each other so well. It's surprisingly easy, I feel, and I love that fact.
(20:14:59) davis.2145: Truer words have likely not been spoken. I admire that you look at goals the same way I do, somewhat lofty, but ultimately satisfying and very level.
(20:15:00) davis.2145: ^^